Discussion:La Révolution française (film)

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Quelle bataille de '28 avril 1792 à la frontière belge' a montré?[modifier le code]

Chers collègues,
My French is not well enough to ask my question in, but I can read French well enough, so feel free to answer in French if you prefer. I've got a question relating to this scene of the film (0:00–1:56). Which historical battle is this? The film itself only gives the information 'Frontière belge - 28 avril 1792'. Two battles seem most likely: the Combat de Marquain (commanded by Theobald de Dillon) or the Combat de Quiévrain (1792) (commanded by Armand-Louis de Gontaut Biron). However, there are two problems:
1. Whether these battles took place on 28, 29 or 30 April 1792 is in dispute (because sources contradict each other); and
2. The descriptions of neither battle appears to align with how they are portrayed in the film, namely: an Austrian cavalry charge on French infantry.

This book by John G. Gallaher gives some of the basic facts about the combats. He points out that there were actually 2 separate events at Quiévrain: on 28 April, there was a short, small skirmish between French and Austrian troops, which the French won. So this can't be the battle portrayed in the film. Despite this minor victory, Biron decided not to attack Mons, and retreat back to France, passing by Quiévrain again on 30 April. This time, there was no battle: a false alarm of an Austrian attack caused panic among the French soldiers, and they fled back to Valenciennes in confusion. So this can't be the battle portrayed in the film either, because 'the enemy army was not even in the vicinity of Quiévrain'. Lastly, the battle of Marquain is said to have taken place on 29 April, but Dillon ordered his troops to withdraw at the first sight of the enemy. According to the article's source, Victoires, conquêtes, désastres, revers et guerres civiles des Français tome 7, "Au premier mouvement rétrograde que font les Français, l'ennemi tire au hasard quelques coups de canon, dont les boulets n'atteignent même pas les derniers de l'armée de Dillon." It goes on to say that panic erupted among the French cavalry, that spread to the French infantry, and then everyone fled back across the border to Lille. There is no indication that the Austrians ever actually clashed with the French at Marquain, let alone that Austrian cavalry charged and killed French infantry, as portrayed in the film.

So what are we to make of all this? Did the film portray any of these three events? Or was it just a fantasy, based on one or more of the three battles to make for interesting entertainment, instead of historical accuracy? J'attends votre réponse, mes chers collègues. Nederlandse Leeuw (discuter) 28 juillet 2018 à 09:28 (CEST)[répondre]

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